Moral and Ethics of Tank (Paladin) untuk TBC dan WOTLK

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Moral and Ethics of Tank (Paladin) untuk TBC dan WOTLK

Post  HenryK on Thu Jul 09, 2009 11:26 pm

Banyak orang yang beranggapan WoW itu sekedar tank and spank, artinya asal ada yang tahan badan, semua beres. Tetapi kenyataannya tidak begitu. Setiap kelas memiliki perilaku yang berbeda, dan aku pengen kasih sekedar info aja untuk kelas Paladin sebagai tanker.

Semua kelas tank (Warrior, Feral Druid, Paladin, dah bahkan mungkin DK) yang efektif harus dapat melakukan 2 hal berikut:
1. Harus bisa menahan agro dari monster / mob yang dilawan
2. Melakukan damage mitigation (block, parry, dodge, etc2) dari mob tersebut untuk dapat stay survived.

Namun bukan berarti class laen dapat seenaknya melakukan spell ato skill yang dapat merebut agro dari musuh atau threat. Untuk dapat menahan agro dari mob, tanker harus memiliki threat yang lebih besar dibanding rekan 1 timnya, dan ini bakal repot, karena paladin tidak lagi memiliki Blessing of Salvation yang menurunkan threat 30% dan diganti dengan Hand of Salvation yang dapat digunakan 2 menit sekali selama 10 detik dengan total threat reduction 20%. Protadin memiliki keunggulan di dalam threat generation karena adanya Righteous Fury, yang dapat menaikkan threat dari holy damage sebesar 60% (90% dengan talent). Tetapi, ini bukan berarti setiap kelas yang terlibat di dalam suatu instance/raid dapat seenaknya mengeluarkan skill karena adanya Righteous Fury. Semua tank memiliki tanggung jawab yang berat di dalam "role"nya karena dia harus bisa menjaga agar mob tidak lepas dari apa yang tanker tahan, terutama jika ke arah para caster ato priest (kelas-kelas yang hanya memakai cloth type armor). Berikut adalah moral dan etika bagi protection paladin atau Tankadin. Maaf kalo ini dalam bahasa inggris, ntar diterjemahkan kalau ada waktu Razz

1. Protection Warriors and feral Druids are not necessarily better tanks than we are they are different.
2. We are not necessarily better tanks than protection Warriors and feral Druids we are different.
3. Speccing 41 points into protection is not enough. 5/5 Tier 4 prot gear is not enough. You need a certain amount of skill and a large amount of commitment to tank. Tanking is the most selective and unforgiving position there is in a raid you need to be at the top of your game.
4. If you plan on tanking, you plan on sacrificing. It will be much harder to heal effectively, as it'll be harder to DPS, grind and PVP effectively. Please expect this and do not complain once you're fully prot specced. Prot spec seems to be good for farming this is not a mistake. You WILL need to farm for yourself. Repair bills WILL be high. This is something you've signed up for.
5. Do NOT be a loot hog. If you're tanking an instance, and a hammer with 299 +healing drops, do NOT roll on it unless you don't plan on tanking anymore or nobody else wants it. Healers need gear to keep you alive don't take it away from them.
6. Remember, you are still a paladin. You can still use many of your paladin abilities while tanking. While it is inadvisable to heal yourself while tanking, you can always cleanse yourself, BoP/BoF others, rez between fights and heal when needed/possible, such as if you are an off-tank and healing the main tank to keep the main healer from building threat.
7. Do NOT be intimidated from what others say about paladin tanking. We can do it, and we can do it well. Discouragement of paladin tanking will only hurt the community as a whole.
8. Do NOT shy away from discussion. Word needs to spread about our qualities (both negative and positive) as tanks. The player base of WoW should be as well informed as possible about our tanking style and mechanics.
9. Make sure your healers know how to heal you. For instance, ask for HoTs instead of bubbles at the beginning of an encounter so that you get mana back from spiritual attunement. Also, if the healer has loads of mana, and you have none, make sure that healer knows to send out big heals to refill your mana bar any mana they have at the end of a serious encounter is a waste (note that over-healing will not restore mana).
10. Go out of your way to refrain from breaking crowd control. We have a 3-target pull and an AoE that generates wonderful threat nevertheless, keep these both away from the crowd control. As you'll find out in TBC, crowd control is more important than ever. That means, if you have a rogue with you, you will not be able to pull using Avenger's Shield without risking breaking the sap. Mages can sheep, hunters can trap and priests can shackle during combat, but rogues can't be mindful. You can still pull with Avenger's Shield, and you can consecrate to your heart's delight, but don't break the crowd control. UPDATE: In the 2.4 Patch, Avenger's shield no longer jumps to Crowd Controlled mobs. This makes running with rogues much easier.
11. Know your abilities. Do some research. Find out what our strengths are, how we can exploit them; what our weaknesses are and how we can improve them.
12. Do not expect to always be the primary choice for a tank slot. We are, essentially, hybrids even if you have sacrificed healing and dps ability, you may be called upon to do either (most probably healing). Heal, and heal with a smile nobody wants to hear someone complaining about how they're forced to go against their spec. Situations may call for a change of role, and we have to be flexible. However, you should still help people realize that, yes, we are viable tanks and should not put up with being typecast as being "Priests in Plate". Try to find some balance between informing others and stereotyping yourself.
13. As prot spec, you WILL rely on groups the majority of the time. If you are the MT, your relationship with the rest of your group is more important than your mitigation or threat generation (though those two are still very significant) as your group/raid/guild will suffer or excel as a whole based, in part, on your attitude. If you don't trust your healers, you will perform worse. If your DPS doesn't trust you, they will perform worse causing more strain on the healers. Attitude will change the group/raid/guild's ability exponentially due to this fact.
14. If you vie for the MT position, don't step on the heads of others to get you there. You will need as much support as you can get. Learn to share the spotlight there are now 3 tanking classes who want to tank let them try it out and try to help them when they falter. You WILL need offtanks find someone whom you trust to be a good tank and try to work out each others' kinks with him/her. Do NOT be a limelight hog and do NOT assume that you can do everything yourself.
15. Learn the mechanics of the other tanks. Find out what they excel at and what hurts them the most. This means both the classes and the players behind the classes as well you need to know the abilities of the classes/players you'll be tanking with. Do not assume that you will be the ideal tank for every single encounter.
16. Remember to keep these words in your mind while tanking:"My job here is to die first!".

(Credit goes to Sven from Paladin threat in Blizzard official forum)

Gambaran umumnya sebagai berikut:

Warriors are best for tanking melee bosses with a lot of attack speed and low damage per hit. This is because it makes healing more smooth, and warriors are effective in avoiding melee hits.

Paladins also favor melee hits over spells. They have an even smoother damage intake when facing fast, low damage melee attacks. This is due to their ability to reach the block cap.

Deathknights are best for tanking spell casting bosses because they have spell damage reduction cooldowns. Malygos for example casts a breath that hits hard, a deathknight can pop his cooldowns and avoid all that spell damage.

Druids are best at tanking burst damage bosses because they have huge health pools.

(source taken from: www.wowwiki.com)

Kira2 dari moral dan etika di atas, orang bisa menyadari bahwa perilaku tiap kelas berbeda satu dengan yang lainnya, namun bisa dapat saling membantu satu sama lainnya jika mengerti bagaimana menggunakan dan memaksimalkan potensi kelas yang dimainkan...Atau kalo para pembaca ingin melakukan perbedaan dari 4 kelas tank (Protection Warrior, Feral Druid, Protection Paladin, dan Death Knight), dapat melihat di http://www.wowwiki.com/Comparison_of_tank_classes

Salam ^^V

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Re: Moral and Ethics of Tank (Paladin) untuk TBC dan WOTLK

Post  Admin on Fri Jul 10, 2009 4:04 am

Sorry Henry, I moved it to Paladin section since it's discussing Paladin as a tank..

Good post by the way.. Smile

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Re: Moral and Ethics of Tank (Paladin) untuk TBC dan WOTLK

Post  AXE on Fri Jul 10, 2009 4:47 pm

jgn cm quote dr web lain shel... buktikan kl u protadin terkuat seminako XD

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Re: Moral and Ethics of Tank (Paladin) untuk TBC dan WOTLK

Post  HenryK on Fri Jul 10, 2009 5:45 pm

Sori..gw kan crit healer..bukan protadin XD

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Re: Moral and Ethics of Tank (Paladin) untuk TBC dan WOTLK

Post  shades on Fri Jul 10, 2009 5:55 pm

wkwkkwkwkw....

di offisial gw ada druid n paly tank :p
which mean gw pengen main paly tank neh pas server dah +wotlk

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all about tanking

Post  cupezz on Sat Oct 17, 2009 5:56 am

klo menurut saya cuma ada kata kata ini Very Happy dalam tanking walaupun berbeda kelas

klo kamu tarik aggro sebelum saya yang memulai.kamu yang salah
tapi klo kamu tarik agrro dari saya karna DPS kamu berarti saya yang salah

intisari seorang tank adalah harus bisa jadi cewek seksi byar semua monster hanya melihat pada kita


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Re: Moral and Ethics of Tank (Paladin) untuk TBC dan WOTLK

Post  TOM on Wed Oct 21, 2009 1:55 pm

imo wow is group game... raid.. elite questing.. etc..
so.. all u need is team work.. not "whose fault is this?" attitude
blaming others is not good on teamwork..

tank always get the hard part in the raid or dungeon.. especially when everything goes wrong.. (taunt on cool down, extra mobs, lagging etc)
so respect the tanker more.. losing agro is common things in wow.. and that happen alots..

dps need to be more tolerance and keep their agro meter low enough so the tanker can do their job "perfectly"

anyway tanker is the one who always gets hit.. and always get blame for everythings.. and he/she is the one who has the highest repair bill... so its not about who having the highest dps or whose fault..
but.. yes!.. we down the boss.. and everyone doing a good job...
i think it is more important to have the boss killed.. than comparing who has the highest dps in the group.
dps need to be more aware of this.. and all tanker need to do is do the best to keep the agro away from others .. of course, with the help of others too.

thats my opinion.. no offence..

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