[Blackcat's Dagger & Mace]

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[Blackcat's Dagger & Mace]

Post  AXE on Tue Oct 06, 2009 6:14 am

This is my idea, based on the daggers like Sharpened Scarlet Kris and Balanced Heartseeker (click the name of the item for links)

Sharpened Scarlet Kris is purchaseable via SKS, but it has no spell power in this server.
and Balanced Heartseeker is too expensive (40 EoH, we can only farm 1 EoH++ each week).

And dagger is equipable on every class, isn't it? It can be used for OH or MH.
.:. maksudnya bikin senjata pengganti senjata heirloom gitu yang BoA

ahem, correction!
i forget about Paladin, who can't wield a dagger,
also not every class/ race can wield dagger @ lv.1
so i'll make a mace version then Very Happy based on The Blessed Hammer of Grace, Devout Aurastone Hammer, Venerable Mass of McGowan

The item is:
[Young Blackcat's Fang]
Binds to account
One Hand || Dagger
3-5 Damage || Speed 1.50
+2 stamina
Durability (20/20)
Requires lv.2
Item lv.1
Equip: Increase hit rating by 1
Equip: Increase AP by 2
Equip: Increase Spell Power by 3

Price: 1 G (for lv.1 item, i think 1 G is enough, consider if a new player wanna buy it!)

[Little Blackcat's Paw]
Binds to account
One Hand || Mace
3-7 Damage || Speed 2.50
+1 stamina
Durability (30/30)
Requires lv.2
Item lv.1
Equip: Increase Spell Power by 3
Price: 1 G (for lv.1 item, i think 1 G is enough, consider if a new player wanna buy it!)

(Mostly the stats are the same as heirloom dagger when equipped @ lv.2, and yes it's item lv.1 like heirloom which u can't enchant it)

Custom NPC's quest (maybe @Main City)

Requires: [Young Blackcat's Paw] or [Little Blackcat's Paw], 2 G >> mahal loh bwt lv.10!
Obtainable @ lv.10
Rewards:
[Blackcat's Fang]
Binds to account
One Hand Dagger
7-11 Damage Speed 1.50
+3 stamina
Durability (30/30)
Requires lv.10
Item lv.1
Equip: Increase hit rating by 2
Equip: Increase AP by 3
Equip: Increase Spell Power by 10


or

[Blackcat's Paw]
Binds to account
One Hand Mace
9-15 Damage Speed 2.50
+2 stamina
Durability (40/40)
Requires lv.10
Item lv.1
Equip: Increase critical rating by 2
Equip: Increase Spell Power by 12


every 10 lv, u can trade it/ upgrade it via quest @ main city
Quest
obtainable @ lvl 20
Requires: [Young Blackcat's Fang] or [Blackcat's Paw] 10 G, get a friendly reputation with (at least) one city
Rewards:
[Elder Blackcat's Fang]
Binds to account
One Hand Dagger
10-19 Damage Speed 1.50
+4 stamina
Durability (40/40)
Requires lv.20
Item lv.1
Equip: Increase hit rating by 2
Equip: Increase AP by 4
Equip: Increase Spell Power by 12


or

[Stray Blackcat's Paw]
Binds to account
One Hand Mace
12-22 Damage Speed 2.50
+3 stamina
Durability (52/52)
Requires lv.20
Item lv.1
Equip: Increase critical rating by 2
Equip: Increase Spell Power by 15


Quest
obtainable @ lvl 30
Requires: [Elder Blackcat's Fang] or [Stray Blackcat's Paw] 10 G, get a friendly reputation with two city
Rewards:
[Howling Blackcat's Fang]
Binds to account
One Hand Dagger
25-48 Damage Speed 1.50
+6 stamina
Durability (50/50)
Requires lv.30
Item lv.1
Equip: Increase hit rating by 3
Equip: Increase AP by 6
Equip: Increase Spell Power by 18


or

[Wild Blackcat's Paw]
Binds to account
One Hand Mace
33-68 Damage Speed 2.50
+4 stamina
Durability (65/65)
Requires lv.30
Item lv.1
Equip: Increase critical rating by 3
Equip: Increase Spell Power by 21


Quest
obtainable @ lvl 40
Requires: [Howling Blackcat's Fang] or [Wild Blackcat's Paw], 20 G, get a honored reputation with two city, performs /salute to 5 players Very Happy Razz
Rewards:
[Hero Blackcat's Fang] (rare :p)
Binds to account
One Hand Dagger
34-67 Damage Speed 1.50
+10 stamina
Durability (60/60)
Requires lv.40
Item lv.1
Equip: Increase hit rating by 5
Equip: Increase AP by 10
Equip: Increase Spell Power by 50


or

[Funky Blackcat's Paw]
Binds to account
One Hand Mace
37-87 Damage Speed 2.50
+6 stamina
+2 intelligence
Durability (75/75)
Requires lv.40
Item lv.1
Equip: Increase critical rating by 5
Equip: Increase Spell Power by 60
Equip: Restores 3 mana every 5 seconds


to be continued (lanjutannya di bwh, krn alt aye blm lvl 50, jd gw buat dengan bandingin ama item2 di wowhead punya dulu)


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Re: [Blackcat's Dagger & Mace]

Post  AXE on Tue Oct 06, 2009 6:33 am

continue: (comparising with lv.50 dagger)
Quest:
Obtainable @ lv.50
Require:[Hero Blackcat's Fang] or [Funky Blackcat's Paw], 60 G, learn 2 profession (u don't have to lvl up, just learn!)
Rewards:
[Legendary Blackcat's Fang]
Binds to account
One Hand Dagger
41-80 Damage Speed 1.50
+18 stamina
Durability (70/70)
Requires lv.50
Item lv.1
Equip: Increase hit rating by 13
Equip: Increase AP by 18
Equip: Increase Spell Power by 72


or

[Black Perssian Cat's Paw]
Binds to account
One Hand Mace
54-90 Damage Speed 2.50
+12 stamina
+8 intelligence
Durability (85/85)
Requires lv.50
Item lv.1
Equip: Increase critical rating by 12
Equip: Increase Spell Power by 80
Equip: Restores 5 mana every 5 seconds


Quest:
Obtainable @ lv.60
Require:[Legendary Blackcat's Fang] or [Black Perssian Cat's Paw], 100 G, get an exalted reputation
Rewards:
[Fangs of Black Cat] (epic duunks~)
Binds to account
One Hand Dagger
51-107 Damage Speed 1.50
+24 stamina
Durability (80/80)
Requires lv.60
Item lv.1
Equip: Increase hit rating by 15
Equip: Increase AP by 23
Equip: Increase Spell Power by 90


or
[Paw of Black Cat]
Binds to account
One Hand Mace
51-107 Damage Speed 2.50
+14 stamina
+12 intelligence
Durability (90/90)
Requires lv.60
Item lv.1
Equip: Increase critical rating by 14
Equip: Increase Spell Power by 100
Equip: Restores 7 mana every 5 seconds
[/color]

Quest:
Obtainable @ lv.70
Custom NPC name:
Tol @ Cenarion Refugee, Zangarmarsh Razz Very Happy. U can see this NPC/ obtain the quest while u're on ghost-mode only XD XD XD
Require:[Fangs of Blackcat] or [Paw of Black Cat] 300G
[White Fangs of Black Cat]
Binds to account
One Hand Dagger
100-167 Damage Speed 1.50
+34 stamina
Durability (90/90)
Requires lv.70
Item lv.1
Equip: Increase hit rating by 18
Equip: Increase AP by 32
Equip: Increase Spell Power by 128


or

[Dark Paws of Black Cat]
Binds to account
One Hand Mace
90-207 Damage Speed 2.50
+17 stamina
+17 intelligence
Durability (105/105)
Requires lv.70
Item lv.1
Equip: Increase critical rating by 16
Equip: Increase Spell Power by 148
Equip: Restores 9 mana every 5 seconds

That's it, a subtitute for heirloom dagger. All daggers are lv.1, u cant enchant it! But still usable on raid.

Gag lupa ada quest buat downgrade, jadi bisa dipake buat leveling alt gitu.... Misal uda dipake rogue bwt lv 1-50, trus krn dapet MH lebi bagus dagger ini dipake roguenya sbg OH, pas roguenya da ampe northend (lv 71++) dia downgrade nih daggernya lalu dikasi ke altnya,
misal... priest, kan butuh juga tuh Spell Power, one-hand pula... jadi bisa make off-hand gt


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Re: [Blackcat's Dagger & Mace]

Post  Admin on Tue Oct 06, 2009 7:54 am

Looks good but this item is rather powerful, even for low level. Maybe couple it with clearing an instance? You would need to create a custom quest, post it in the custom quest section and post the link here..

If you need to modify the item, please modify your main post and don't reply. This is to avoid cluttering the topic with modification infos....

Btw, I think Paladin can't use dagger..

I'll try to get a dump of our DB plus the tools you need this weekend..

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Re: [Blackcat's Dagger & Mace]

Post  AXE on Tue Oct 06, 2009 10:23 am

gak kok tuh, ini uda disamain ama heirloom daggernya yg dr wintergrasp, statnya uda gw kurangin smua dan gw ilangin resilliencenya (meski ga guna bwt lvling) ... harusnya jauh lebih lemah.

contohnya, [Cute Blackcat's Paw] ini dibandingin ama Prowler's Strikeblade. Jelas kalah di dps, kalah di stat sta, kalah di AP. kalo dibandingin 16 hit juga kalah dgn 42 armor penetration.
Menangnya di spell power, tapi, ga guna juga kan spell power buat rogue? Very Happy

Kalo dibandingin ama daggernya mage dr karazan coba contoh: Nathrezim Mindblade, spell power uda kalah, ditambah ga ada Int pula.

Dan jgn lupa, item2 ini ga bisa dienchant! Jd ya cm segitu2 aja statnya. Henry jg bilang "ga kekecilan tuh statnya? XD"

Udah ada kan itu custom npc & questnya? Ya gampang2 sih .... cuma bayar/ naikin rep/ profesi/ kasi emotion ke player Very Happy

Masala pally, iya ini gw mw bikin mace version terinspirasi dr

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Re: [Blackcat's Dagger & Mace]

Post  Admin on Thu Oct 08, 2009 4:13 am

Axe, because now you have dagger and mace, you'll need to create 2 lines of custom quest for upgrading this. One for upgrading the dagger and the other for upgrading the mace. Are you ok with this?

Also, please bear in mind that most BoA item was obtained at higher level with more difficulty in obtaining them, before it get passed down to their alts. Yours has rather easy entry level. So you need to modify the quests to reflect the difficulty in getting this item. Maybe couple with item from instance runs or killing instance bosses/elites. Could you please start thinking about the quests and post them in the appropriate section, and then link it here. You could use my own postings for example on how to do it.

@Officers: Please give your feedback on this. If the majority of the officers (more than half) says ok to the stats and the quest involved in getting the item, then you can start working on this. A reminder for officers, you need to be neutral in your opinion/feedback.

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Re: [Blackcat's Dagger & Mace]

Post  HenryK on Thu Oct 08, 2009 7:22 am

Hm..it is indeed have rather easy entry level...Why don't you add a bit more challenge in it? especially for requirement lvl 40 and above...maybe getting some item quest from a boss in Maraudon or Zul'Farrak for example or killing certain mobs in one of the dungeon..Here is my idea:

Lvl 40 item gathering can be obtained from Maraudon/Zul Farrak
Lvl 50 item gathering can be obtained from Sunken Temple
Lvl 60 item gathering can be obtained from BRD/Stratolhome/Scholomance
Lvl 70 item gathering can be obtained from TBC instances (haven't decided which one)

Someone can give feedback on this..please

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Re: [Blackcat's Dagger & Mace]

Post  AXE on Thu Oct 08, 2009 11:41 am

o.O
Isn't it too hard? It would be easier if your main is druid/ pally/ DK who can regenerate or heal and has a thick amor. But how about others?

Anyway, the stats which i give is a lot weaker than an epic, even a rare one and it cant be enchanted. Must an alt must solo an instance to upgrade his/her weapon? D:

For example: how many fresh lv.70 "class" can solo a normal instance of sethek? D:

I have to agree with mut2, which how we get [Young Blackcat's Fang] or [Little Blackcat's Paw]
should be a little hard, not the opposite (let the alt do that)

Just remember, a little hard... make sure that all class can obtain it!

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Re: [Blackcat's Dagger & Mace]

Post  Admin on Thu Oct 08, 2009 12:26 pm

Well then Axe, please start thinking about the quests on how to get these items, post it in the custom quest section and then link it here Smile

I look forward to reading it..

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Re: [Blackcat's Dagger & Mace]

Post  HenryK on Fri Oct 09, 2009 6:12 am

still..regarding it is too hard or not, i consider it to be quite reasonable..WoW is not a game you can do it alone, can ask for other players to help, similar to how I got my Charger back in TBC..Though I like the idea yet the weapon itself as a change of pace once in a while...doing same quests will be boring, which reminds me of old tokens from BC before =p XD

Speaking of little hard, isn't there a normal quest in barrens or orgrimmar? where you have to go to wailing cavern or ragefire chasm to get the item quest/killing a mob there when you are lvl 14? and ARE you sure you can solo it in lvl 14? I doubt it...even with war, it is still hard. If that normal quests from barrens or orgrimmar can be issued like that, why don't this custom quest will be?..but if the custom quests are intended to be solo use, then perhaps killing some rare/elite monster is sufficient. This is just my idea..

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Re: [Blackcat's Dagger & Mace]

Post  Admin on Fri Oct 09, 2009 7:14 am

Axe, this item would have to be BoP (Bind on Pickup) because at the moment, I don't know how custom BoA is going to work in the server. Since the upgrade will be managed via quests there this will become a semi BoA..

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Re: [Blackcat's Dagger & Mace]

Post  AXE on Sat Oct 10, 2009 4:15 pm

HenryK wrote:still..regarding it is too hard or not, i consider it to be quite reasonable..WoW is not a game you can do it alone, can ask for other players to help, similar to how I got my Charger back in TBC..Though I like the idea yet the weapon itself as a change of pace once in a while...doing same quests will be boring, which reminds me of old tokens from BC before =p XD

i agree if WoW isn't a solo player game... but at leveling up too? It's true that we need others for raid and instance. But not about levelling i think. This "heirloom" weapon which i suggest is mainly to help an alt.

If u wanna do a BRD instance for getting an upgrade for lv.60-weapon... i'm sure that u can get better weapon there. Remember, i make this weapon is a lot weaker than epic or rare (the stats is weaker than a rare weapon and the function like: "increase hit rate by x" is a lot weaker than epic weapon). Plus, u cant enchant it!

Do every main-toon must help my alt for upgrading this? Or must every alt has same level (all alt must lvl 20 so that they can run instances together to upgrade the weapon?) No... too boring and too waste of time.

On the other hand, the quest is my decision btw Razz

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